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Police Fired Over 100 Bullets At Latina Women ‘Mistaken’ for Chris #Dorner

Police fired over 100 bullets at two Latina women mistaken for Christopher Dorner last week during their  newspaper delivery route, according to their attorney, Glen Jonas. 

The shooting occurred in a neighborhood in Torrance, California, where an LAPD patrol unit was stationed to guard the home of a high-ranking LAPD officer named as a target in Dorner’s online manifesto. Margie Carranza, 47, and her mother, Emma Hernandez, 71, were on their paper route in a pick-up truck that police say resembled Dorner’s.

Both were taken to the hospital where Carranza was treated for wounds to her hand from shattered glass and her elderly mother was taken to the ICU for two gunshot wounds to the back.

Jonas told NBC Los Angeles that the women’s pick up truck was riddled with 102 bullet holes plus several more that pierced through their clothing. “I don’t understand how they survived. It’s a miracle,” said Jonas.

Though the women survived, Jonas says, “They’re grappling with a lot of issues, the fact that they were almost killed by police.”

LAPD Police Chief Charlie Beck apologized to the women, calling the incident “a tragic misinterpretation” by police under “incredible tension” given the manhunt for Dorner that was underway.

Jonas was understanding but pointed out, “The problem is there’s nothing there that matches in the description. Not the color of the truck, the gender, the race, the height, the weight, nothing.”

The same night the women were nearly killed, police intentionally crashed into and shot at another pick-up truck in the same neighborhood. Once again the driver (a slender white man) and vehicle didn’t match Dorner’s description.

On top of that, none of the three people “mistaken” for Dorner received any warning from police, suggesting a “shoot to kill” mentality was at work here. Many have defended this by arguing that law enforcement was under extreme pressure because they were being targeted. My answer to that is, it doesn’t fucking matter! The law applies even when police are faced with a cop-killer end of story. More importantly, this behavior isn’t exclusive to the Dorner situation. Police in southern California have a lengthy history of “shoot first, ask questions later” type policing, which I wrote about here.

  1. I kinda feel bad (not really) for that One officer out there whom is not a brainwashed jug-head. A badge, gun(S) and immunity from the law they swear to uphold creates a cowardice, bulling, Murderers society.
    I haven’t heard any state or federal Reps speak out against the handling of the search (and destroy) of Dorner. Eff due process?

    February 14, 2013
  2. The state cares far more for its survival than yours or your rights to due process. A casual reading of the news, police brutality, drone warfare, corruption–it’s all there for anyone with eyes to see. Dorner knew this. He wanted us to know it too before he died as he knew he must for the acts he committed. Was he a ‘bad’ man? That’s up to God now. One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

    For my taste, Dorner didn’t come off as repugnant as the U.S. soldiers I heard commenting about the unarmed civilians and children they cut down with .50 caliber helicopter machine guns in the shocking video of the same published by Wikileaks. Bradley Manning is being held and to be put on trial for that whistle blowing. Dorner knew the score, appointed himself as God (like we do collectively) and decided he was going to give as good as he knew he was going to take. It was the perfect crime spree, having already accepted the inevitability of his own death.

    The authorities simply MUST demonize the man to the limit because–what would happen if more Americans questioned whether life was so precious we would purchase it at any cost? ONE man succeeded in distracting a huge portion of the state’s security apparatus. The specter of copycat crimes haunts them. Thus, it wasn’t simply shoot to kill on sight in order to merely silence him, but to intimidate others who might take inspiration from Dorner’s actions. A major part of the state’s monopoly on force is the terror it wields. If it loses that dimension, the force it uses won’t be sufficient to keep the population in check.

    February 15, 2013
  3. Gerrie #

    Imagine the swearing & logo in every POLICE INSIGNIA,,,, “TO PROTECT & SERVE” ???
    One Wonders,,, “protecting & serving” WHO?
    Ohhh Yeah,,, “The community”.
    Oh really,,, WHICH COMMUNITY ?

    Welcome to tyranny,,, You paid for it, you bake it & you eat it.

    February 16, 2013
  4. fred nasty #

    How could bullets pierce someone’s clothing without piercing through them?! Why are they leaving out the number of times they were shot?! Such a crucial part of this story, not even a mention as to why this integral piece of infomation completing this story is missing!!

    February 17, 2013
    • Gerrie #

      Did you really ask,,,,

      “How could bullets pierce someone’s clothing without piercing through them?”

      Last time I checked,,, People wear clothes, therefore the clothes are pierced first, before the Bullets can reach the human skin.

      TELL ME,,, It ain’t so?

      March 27, 2013
    • Ben #

      RE “fred nasty # How could bullets pierce someone’s clothing without piercing through them?!”

      I’m wearing a jacket: It sticks out at my waist, as I’m sitting here, about 5 inches to each side of me. Think two triangles next to my body. I’d say that alone equals about one sheet of legal sized paper. If I used that as a target, without overlapping holes, I could put about 25 to 50 rounds through that. If I put on my hat, kind of a panama style, I think it could take about 10 without hitting anything but hair.

      If a woman is wearing a dress with her feet about 12 inches apart, her skirt could have a dozen holes put in it without hitting her,

      I could go on with a bunch of types of clothes.

      Bottom line: Assuming people wear clothes where your from Fred, you’re not the brightest crayon in the box if you couldn’t figure this out.

      April 9, 2013
  5. I need to to thank you for this good read!! I absolutely loved every little bit of it. I have you saved as a favorite to check out new things you post|

    March 22, 2013
  6. Ben #

    It’s a feedback loop: As cops get less respect, you get worse cops. As you get worse cops, they get less respect.

    I wouldn’t have been a cop before the ’60s, when they were portrayed as “nice officers” and they could do a little minor graft (eat for free etc.) without much fuss.

    Now days, except for a few saints (crazy in their own way) often what you get is bullies, thrill seekers, and (at best) low level “just doing any job” lumps.

    There are some exceptions, I’ve known a few, but I’d say the % goes down every year.

    And LA is famous for going for the para military types. I know some forces won’t even consider hiring anyone whose done time there. Their habits make it a crap shoot.

    Of course such prejudice applies to officers from Houston because of a perception of being STUPID mad dogs (one exasperated quote I loved: “…if your going to shoot someone and dump their bodies in a ditch. Take the (police) issue handcuffs off before you do it.)

    April 9, 2013
    • Gerrie #

      Sadly,,, The cops are product of society, born & raised in the same community they are ENTRUSTED to serve.

      Therefore, broken families, breed broken society breeding broken citizens & cops.

      It all comes down in to,,,, BROKEN COMMUNITY HARVESTING BROKEN SEEDS.

      Let’s face it,,, There is more in to the story, than just “BAD COPS” going out of control.

      April 9, 2013

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